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发表于 2006-8-27 23:12:51 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式

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我对于时间的认识也肤浅。这里谈点个人的看法和思考,供参考:

时间到现在为止也无明确的定义,好像谈到时间多冠于时空,认为是一体的,我现在也这样认为;好在不是科学家与占星家,我们探讨的时间多由于K线,这就简化了一点。我对时间的思考多源于江恩,一些方法也多来自江,为此,还兜出些闲话,有的甚至骂我是江的卫道士,我无言,只是方法多来源江,让我说是自己的一套,还真说不出口,闲扯了几句。只想告知兄我对时间了解的一些思路。

时间应该是自然的产物,那么,K线的高低拐点与时间定然密不可分,兄谈到的三年,五年,我没有大资金的运作经历,无以表达。若是从股市的运作来看,江说的大周期长一点的有三十年,短的按切分可以细划到3天,或更短。

就这一轮的上涨来看,大的时间点,应该是2005/7/19-21日,今年的7/10日左右也是一个时间共震区,但次于去年的7/19一个级别。另一个次级时间应该是2007/2月份,大一级别的在2008/1月完成。那么,在2006/7--2007/2之间会有一个大的高位时间吗?我还没有找到。

江对时间的文字很精典的,他的一些方法与星象有关,我认为时间应该与宇宙星象相关,这方面我了解不多,只是看过的一些资料,研习后这样认为,也许很肤浅。还盼兄指正!


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 楼主| 发表于 2006-8-28 23:16:37 | 只看该作者
今年的10/20也是一时间窗口,但能创造奇迹吗?
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-8-30 22:57:21 | 只看该作者
【预测】2020年前火星“冲日”一览

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2001/6/14
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2005/11/7 20.16 16 -2.3
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发表于 2006-8-30 22:57:55 | 只看该作者
看看学习一下
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发表于 2006-8-31 00:31:54 | 只看该作者
原帖由 占一剑 于 2006-8-30 22:57 发表
【预测】2020年前火星“冲日”一览

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日期 视直径(角秒) 时间(时) 星等

2001/6/14
2003/8/27
2005/11/7 20.16 16 -2.3
2007/12/25 15.88 4 -1.6
2010/1/30 14.1 22 ...

占兄费心了.谢谢.
9月12日行星将出现重要结构...

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-8-31 09:19:56 | 只看该作者
原帖由 跳跳雨 于 2006-8-31 00:31 发表
占兄费心了.谢谢.
9月12日行星将出现重要结构...


雨兄身体好点吗?如好一点帖个星盘看看...
祝身体早日康复!
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发表于 2006-8-31 16:15:44 | 只看该作者
原帖由 占一剑 于 2006-8-31 09:19 发表


雨兄身体好点吗?如好一点帖个星盘看看...
祝身体早日康复!

谢谢,虽无大恙,体力总感不支,上来的少.
盘象结构偶认为是有参考份量的.先帖已应验的星盘结构...(探究中,为防误导,限定了看图权限,请谅,看到的朋友请无转帖,谢谢.)

051206日1074始股指大幅上升,那天的星盘结构
060309日(12380时星盘结构图;060713日的星盘图(这之后出现过两次YOD盘象)...
060912将再见神秘矩形,届时是否有影响,可据K线提示及其它技术综合分析.

见图.:

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发表于 2006-8-31 16:31:47 | 只看该作者
从历史的走势来看,神秘矩形一旦出现,大都都会带来股市的大变动,但并不是只是下跌,方向判定,还得根据位置等因素做更细致的分析...

例如:2001年2245做头后,7月31日形成神秘矩形,当日暴跌100点,从而结束了长达10年的牛市行情 .

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-8-31 16:32:20 | 只看该作者
谢雨兄,四图全收。星相要学习,关注9/12。
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-8-31 22:31:57 | 只看该作者

回复 #8 跳跳雨 的帖子

雨 兄好图,看来要密切关注。我转星盘好像是7/22就开始形成一个月---火---天王---土的矩形,一直到23日凌晨。23日开始下跌。雨兄不知我看得对否?

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-9-2 15:00:22 | 只看该作者
原帖由 跳跳雨 于 2006-8-31 16:15 发表
060309日(12380时星盘结构图;060713日的星盘图(这之后出现过两次YOD盘象)......

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YOD盘象
——上帝的手指
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[作者:佚名    文章来源:互联网]


真正的YOD是指两颗星互成60度,第三颗星则分别与前两颗星成150度,称为顶点星,而且通常是三颗星中运行最快的。在上图中,月亮是运行最快的星星,又是顶点星,因而与水星和火星构成了YOD相位。为了更好的理解YOD,先要了解150度相位(梅花相位)。构成梅花相位的两颗星,在星座二极(阴阳),三分(基本宫,固定宫,变动宫),四分性质(火土风水四象)方面没有共同点。即使是这样,这两颗星仍是有着不可忽视的关联。由于两星十分不同,根据自然规律,它们试图寻找平衡点,就像冲相星一样。但是,由于它们没有共同的性质,所以,是无法达到平衡的,结果导致能量具有扰动性,使人感到必须作出某些调整。为缓解这种压力,两星中的一颗会被迫以违反该星特质的方式作出反应,可想而知,这种反应是困难而又痛苦滴。

但是梅花相位也不尽相同,主要分为以下3类:

1。有些成相的星星所落星座拥有相同的守护星,例如白羊座和天蝎座同受火星守护;金牛座和天秤座同受金星守护。

2。有些是成相星星落至日点力量同等的星座(antiscia,至日点),即沿巨蟹座和摩羯座的0度轴划分的星座,属“软相”,类似三合和六合;或是至日点对立(countra-antiscia,能量平衡点分别是昼与夜,沿白羊/天秤轴)的星座,属“硬相”,类似刑相位。

3。有些是根本毫无关联地(averse)。

YOD的能量暴发通常是瞬间地。通常,我们对第一颗六合星作出迅速反应,然后,我们会等上相当长的一段时间,才对第二颗六合作出反应。释放点,即真正适合行动的时间点,是冲顶端星,即六合的中点时。等到YOD被整合后,并且当我们知道应该何时,如何对它作出反应时,两颗六合星会协同推动顶端星的作用调整。

由于梅花和六合相位不是“行动”相位,因而YOD让人感到的是情绪的困扰。在YOD的影响下,我们总感觉缺少了一些重要的东东,即帮助我们超越烦恼的信息,那种感觉是细微地,难过地,我们认为它不应该是酱紫滴。从积极的观点看YOD,它在指点你,并对你说,你正处在人生的转折点,你的生活将发生改变。比喻而言,也许你花费了许多时间去学习揣摩某名星的表演技艺,试图替代他/她,当时机成熟的时候,你一夜成名。

YOD也可能是消极滴。有YOD的人不仅有健康问题,而且重生能力也不可忽视。有时YOD使人身体

不适,当你真正去看医生的时候,这种不适却又消失了。当YOD开始行动时,你的生活会改变。

比如有人在YOD发生作用时,被诊断患有癌症;然后在YOD再次发生作用时,结婚。





Yod相位由两个指向同一颗行星的梅花相位构成,并且这两个行星间由一个六分相连接。Yod在希伯莱语中的意思是“上帝的手指”。在Yod指向的那颗星球,是我们有特别工作要作的地方。正如Howard Sasportas在他的书中经常所说,Yod顶点的星球被两颗位于基端的星球用套索套住了。如果我们参考John McEnroe的命盘(“大十字”章中),我们就会看到他的月火合相(本身就已经是一个困难的相位)被海王和土星“楔住了”,而这两者的性质非常矛盾,前者象征着牺牲与同情,而后者则象征着纪律与限制。
“在此种情况下,我们的内部与外部都存在着趋力,这两者一起作用产生一种微妙而力量强大的紧张状况,这种紧张状况可能明显的表现为我们精神上的危机。这种现实的转变可能在显露并给出新的交替主题之前就已经经历了数年。然而这种转变一旦发生,转变的主题就已作好准备并已成熟,而表现出这是一种命中注定的转变,至少将体会到这是人生的一个新的阶段……Yod即将发生作用的时刻就如同一个人来到了一个十字路口,他必须沿着一个他并不很清楚将会把他带到何处去的方向前进。我们唯一知道的就是我们应该改变方向。这种方向的改变实际上并不是一种有意识的,经过深思熟虑的,有动机的决定,也不是由潜意识里对相冲突的两种事物所做出的甄别所左右的。但它的确是由一种不可知的需求所决定的。虽然,当我们走上这条新的道路,它可能表现得毫无理由并且很艰难,实际上它的力量与它的性质已经在过去的几年中建立起来了……虽然对于命主来说,这种转变在起初显得并不确定,或者是在这一新的不习惯领域中无法适应,但他不久就会惊讶的意思到他具有的能力或者是在这一领域中很多的知识,而这一切,可能是他这些年来在主观领域中的积累”(Bill Tierney )–


  由两个150度和一个60度相位组成的闭合锐角三角形。

  上帝的手指往往被看成一个神秘并且有力的相位,一种等待发掘的极大潜力,可能主要还是对健康的影响吧。


我们众所周知的几个传统重要相位,即相合(0度)、六合(60度)、相刑(90度)、三合(120度)、对冲(180度),其实是占星学托勒密派所提出的五大重要相位(5 Ptolemaic aspects)。其实还有很多很重要的小相位,比如说梅花相位(quincunx),即150度相位影响着我们的生活(新浪星座注:可以在Astrolog软件里面的设定格式里面让它显示150度相位)。而梅花相位的最早提出者,是伟大的占星学家开普勒(Kepler)。

  占星家经常利用这个梅花相位来判断一个人的健康,甚至经常会用来判断一个人的死亡。梅花相位的特殊之处在于,它不像相合相位那样使星体力量得到融合,不相三合或是六合相位那样使星体间的力量互相流动,也不像相刑或是对冲,造成剧烈的星体冲突。它更像是一艘抛锚的船,力量淤塞于中,无法释放出来。

  如果我们采用的是等分宫位法来划分宫位,每个宫位正好三十度的话。我们就能够发现上升点分别与象征健康、工作的第六宫宫头以及象征死亡、损失的第八宫宫头形成150度的梅花相位,而两个宫头之间构成了60度的六合相位。

  这种三个点,或是三个星体构成的150、150、60的三角,就是我们要谈到的所谓“上帝的手指”(Yod)。这是一种150度的加强形态,并且带有很大的命运的色彩。它象征着一种我们无法抗拒的命运。

  因为梅花相位本身缺乏整合星体能量的特质,所以在出生图上具有这些相位的行星的相关生活内容,如果不是一种强制性的混乱状态,就是一种长期的永远无法解决的内容。举例来说,梅花相位所象征的内容,就像是我们每天都要做却永远做不完的家务劳动,或是那种永远困扰我们的慢性病或是慢性精神疾患,再不然就是那种顽固自身嗜好。

  进一步说,如果把90度刑相位比喻成一种精神上的紧张与最终的释放的话,梅花相位就可以说是一种精神上的昏迷状态。梅花相位,象征着无意识或是下意识的行为,是人类本身难以改变的。

  而加强形态的“上帝的手指”,之所以说是一种命运,我向大家也能够明白了。因为它所加强的行为,全部是人类无意识或是下意识的行为,所以想要控制或是改变,是几乎不可能的。尤其是上帝的手指的三个构成点上面有太阳或是中天的参与,就更是力量巨大。

  当然,“上帝的手指”对人们的影响力也要看具体行星和具体的宫位。例如,如果是水星、木星两颗吉星和中天构成这个三角,就要比土星、火星和中天构成的三角要好受的多。

  但并不是说,“上帝的手指”就完全是一种负面的力量。

  “上帝的手指”在加强命运的同时,也象征着一种创造的能量。因为在这个三角中,没有一种渠道去释放这种内在能量,而我们知道能量本身是恒定的不可能消失的,所以它就会以一种创造力的形式来表现出来。

  而且,“上帝的手指”,因为象征一种永远无法完成的工作,所以具有这种相位的人,如果参与一些永远无法完成的工作,比如说科学探索,比如说社会工作,教育工作,就会很好的发挥“上帝的手指”的正面作用。

  例如,如果一个人的海王星(象征牺牲本我,服务众人)、冥王星(象征着转变和变革)与金星(象征着愉悦、艺术和价值)构成上帝之手,而金星落在象征爱情和子女的第五宫。那么,去做一些和孩子有关的社会福利工作,就是一种因势利导,发挥正面作用的好办法。



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 楼主| 发表于 2006-9-2 16:07:37 | 只看该作者
YOD盘象——上帝的手指




上图一个土——金对火星的手指

下图2005/9/20一个冥——木对火星的手指:



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发表于 2006-9-3 14:36:07 | 只看该作者
看不懂二位的美图,就顶顶帖
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-9-3 19:10:09 | 只看该作者
原帖由 静芸 于 2006-9-3 14:36 发表
看不懂二位的美图,就顶顶帖


静芸好!去年我也不懂,今年能看懂一点点了。
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发表于 2006-9-4 18:40:51 | 只看该作者
原帖由 占一剑 于 2006-8-31 22:31 发表
雨 兄好图,看来要密切关注。我转星盘好像是7/22就开始形成一个月---火---天王---土的矩形,一直到23日凌晨。23日开始下跌。雨兄不知我看得对否?

占兄好,几日未上来,回复晚了,请谅.星盘矩形,这里是根据相位来说的.一般是指四星互为90度,在盘象中自然形成的四方形.比方说,用Wheels 看,就是四个90度,找它们所对应的数字,星盘中对应的是行星所处的黄经度....
有关分析判断,我也正在学习中,日后身体好些在慢慢交流探讨,占兄所帖的YOD内容很好,不管什么相位都要考虑极,分...等因素,金融占星的资料很少,例子也不多见,我做了大量的统计,在根据相关理论对照分析...权当玩耍:)
下图是05年9月20号的星盘相位+K线图,正好是1223高点变盘:

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-9-4 21:09:34 | 只看该作者

回复 #15 跳跳雨 的帖子

还是雨兄图倩,二图合一,如在此时此际结合事件来分析是否有天、地、人之感呢?我也正在统计资料,还未来认真分析学习呢?
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-9-4 21:11:27 | 只看该作者
发一钻石图(2000/11/08):

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-9-5 18:09:43 | 只看该作者
雨兄:有人说星象是把双刃剑,看了一些资料,有点意思。但我想如真通星象,应该可解。
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-9-5 18:11:33 | 只看该作者
8月7日的手指与去年9/20的有什么不同?

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发表于 2006-9-6 14:55:12 | 只看该作者
一两句说不清,这会有事,有空再聊.
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-9-6 22:15:31 | 只看该作者
原帖由 跳跳雨 于 2006-9-6 14:55 发表
一两句说不清,这会有事,有空再聊.


雨兄康复再聊!!!
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-9-9 11:56:28 | 只看该作者
时间是个永衡的话题。
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-9-11 19:24:54 | 只看该作者
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一些不完整的yod例子~分享分享~

文/Bob Mark 譯/eoii
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A Yod is formed when two planets make a sextile aspect and a third planet is opposite their mid-point. That third planet must make angles of 150 degrees with the other two. If you drew lines on the chart connecting the planets, you would get a Y-shaped formation that seems to point to one part of the horoscope.


That 150 degree angle is called a quincunx, a strange minor aspect that, by itself, is off again, on again, favorable, unfavorable. The two planets making the quincunx seem to be out of joint. Imagine two waves going into and out of phase, first adding and then canceling each other out and you have the picture. Because of this, it is always difficult to say what the effect of a quincunx will be at any particular moment.


The result is steadier in a Yod since the power is focused. The energy of the two planets making the sextile seems directed to the house and sign containing that third planet. The effect of a Yod is said to be ated or show some special destiny. Oh sure, it sounds really impressive when you tell a client ?ey, you have a special destiny!? However, that is nothing more than a arnum statement? and really says nothing. All that is really going on is an emphasis on one particular area of the life. Nonetheless, this focus frequently seems driven, compelling.


相比起只有一個梅花位,yod的結果是比較隱固的,因為能量集中。作為基底的兩顆星把宮位及星座的各種能量指向第三顆星。Yod的效力是有些命運色彩的。當然,這聽上去很令你的咨詢者認像深刻。但這其實並不能說明什麼。這其實只是說明你生命中的重點(所指向的星/宮/座)是被推向而且是強制性的。(多麼令人無奈…orz)


By contrast, the T-Cross sets out a problem and pushes you to a find a solution in the mpty leg?of the cross. The Yod just pushes you and the solutions are seldom simple. It not nicknamed he Finger of God?for nothing.


與之對比的是,大十字建立困難並推動你去找出解決方法。但YOD只是推動你,而解決的辦法從來並不簡單。所以才被叫作上帝的手指。(那還不是什麼也沒說嘛…>_<)

Here are some examples:

Ted Turner has Mars (action, energy) in his 10th house (career) making a sextile with Mercury (communications). The planet that completes the Yod is Uranus (originality, independence) in his 5th house (creativity). Uranus rules everything electrical, including television.


Ted Turner(好像是時代華納的董事)的火星(動力,能量)入第十宮(事業)與水星(溝通)構成基底,而指向的星體是天王星(原創,獨立)入第五宮(創造力)。天王星統治所有電子相關的,包括電視。


People with Uranus strong in their horoscopes instinctively try to do things that others say are impossible and will never work. Turner was among the first to put a local station on satellite. He also started the Cable News Network (CNN) which was expected to flop.


一個天王星強的人本能地嘗試幹其他人認為不可能或是永遠不會做的工作。Turner好像是第一個於廣播站放上衛星。他亦成立了Cable News Network (CNN),一個曾被認為會倒下的媒體。


How about the great number of other people born on the same day as Ted Turner? Why aren they all rich and famous? First of all, that Yod doesn promise fame and fortune. It simply adds energy and originality to communications. In many areas of the world, these things are frowned upon and aspects like this will only get you into trouble.


那麼為什麼只有一個Ted Turner而其他宇宙的雙生子並沒有他那麼有錢和出名呢?第一,yod並沒有承諾到任何的名利。它只是加添了能量及原創能力於溝通上。於很多其他地方,這些只會令人不悅,而且一個這樣的相位組只會帶給你麻煩。


Secondly, we have no way of knowing what success the most of those others have had since they are not famous.


Turner Yod gets an extra boost because Uranus sits on top of the Moon South Node. This adds extra comfort to what we are doing, do much in fact, that it may also seem like wee been doing that same thing all our lives.


第二,我們其實很難知道其他人有否成功或是做成了什麼樣的成功,因為其他有這種相位組的人並不出名。


Turner的yod有額外的推動力,由於天王合了南交點。這加強了我們潛意識的作用。


Henry David Thoreau had Mars (energy, action) making sextile aspects with Mercury (communications) and the Moon (emotions, feelings). The point of the Yod is formed by Jupiter, which rules more than uck.? Optimism, wisdom, philosophy, and publishing are other things in the domain of this largest planet in our solar system. Thoreau, of course, became famous for writing (Mercury) about his philosophy (Jupiter) of freedom and independence (Mars aspecting Jupiter in Sagittarius).


Henry David Thoreau (好像是一個詩人)擁有火星(動力,能量)六合水(溝通)月(情緒,感受),指向點為木星,包括了好運,擴展,樂觀,智慧,哲學(第九宮相關),及出版。Thoreau理所當然的成為一個出名於哲學方面(木星)有關自由及獨立(火星150木星於射手)的作家(水星)


Gary Hart became famous for blowing his 1988 run for the Democratic presidential nomination by telling the press ollow me all you want. Ie got nothing to hide.?They caught him in a tryst with a woman who was not his wife. Back then, in that unenlightened age, this was the kiss of death for his political ambitions. Since that time, of course, Bill Clinton showed us all how to use extramarital affairs to increase your popularity. Gary Hart was born with the Sun in Sagittarius, a sign famous for saying whatever is on its mind. There is a direct channel between the Sagittarian brain and mouth with no filter in between. His Sun is sextile Mars (energy, action). The Yod is formed by the planet Uranus (the unexpected). When someone with a strong Uranus gets in trouble, they are likely to deal with it by ejecting from the situation. Senator Hart found himself faced with reporters who only wanted to ask about his non-political affairs. He abruptly dropped out of the race. A short time later, he tried to get back in again, but it was too late. Ah, if only he had gone on ?0 Minutes?with his wife and told Mike Wallace that his private life was nobody business!


Gary Hart (好像是美國的政治人物)出名於1988年民主派的總統提名(&%$##%後面的字太脫…不太明)但被抓包與一個不是他妻子的女人幽會。於那個無知的時代,這是一個他政治野心的死亡之吻。由此以後,Bill Clinton表現了如何利用婚外事件來提升個人的受歡迎程度。Gary Hart 盤上日射手,一個出名於說什麼也於腦海之中的星座。日六合火(能量,動力)。指向點為天王(不能預計)。所以這個射手的腦袋及嘴巴是沒有過慮的。當一個天王強的人有麻煩時,他們會以抽離這個角色的方式處理。Hart參議員覺得自己只是在面對一些只想問些非政治的事件時便會魯莽地放棄並脫出比賽。後來他想返回賽場時,已經太遲了。(&%%^&後面應該也是看不清楚的廢話…)


Oh yes, his Sun, which is part of that Yod, happens to rule his 5th house (romance) and is making a quincunx aspect with Uranus (the unexpected). He should have gone into media, like Ted Turner, instead of politics. Then nobody would have paid much attention to his monkey business. Coincidentally, onkey Business?was the name of the yacht that he was on when someone took a picture of Ms. Rice sitting on his lap.


對了,他的太陽也是yod的一部分,統治了五宮(浪漫)150度了天王(不可以預計)。他應該當傳播而不是政治,就像Ted Turner一樣。這樣便沒有人會留意他的猴子戲(指那幽會的事情。monkey business是他的被拍到幽會情形的游艇的名字)。


Temporary Yods by Transit and Progression推運中短期的yod


Let say you don have a Yod in your horoscope. But if you have two planets making a sextile aspect (60 degrees) you still have a potential Yod. As the planets transit around the zodiac, they eventually reach the degree that is opposite the midpoint of that sextile and a temporary Yod is formed.


即使你本命盤上沒有yod,但如果你有一個六分相,那麼你還是有機會發動yod。因為當流年星體滑過六分相的中點,yod便成立了。


The Moon, for instance, will be at that point once every month for several hours. Take note of when it does this. For several hours on that day, it will most likely be a bad time to make major decisions. Too much emotion. The area of your life where this will tend to happen depends on the particular house that the Moon is transiting as well as the houses occupied by the two natal planets which make the sextile. And be certain to check the houses that those planets rule as well.


月亮會於每個月的某些小時走到同一點。所以那天的某幾個小時便會是對於作出重要決定的最壞時刻。太情緒化了。所發生於的生活領域會是月落入的宮中及基底的宮。所以同時間,三個宮主星也要看。


This is a good time to remind you of the cardinal rule for making an astrology forecast:占星預告的基本


Always Check Everything Before Making A Forecast!


Progressed planets passing over that midpoint will have the same effect as transiting planets. However, they will hang around for a longer time.


Yods in Chart Comparison於比較盤中的yod


Now what if you meet someone who has a planet in their chart that sits opposite the midpoint of your two sextile planets? This makes a Yod whenever the two of you are together and can add a compulsive note to the relationship.


同樣的有些人的星體會於另一人的六分相中央而於盤上構成yod。所以這個yod會於你兩在一起時,於你們的關係上加強了強制的色調。


This was discussed in detail in he Yod Book?by Karen Hamaker-Zondag, a work that I highly recommend. She goes into detail about how this worked out in the Clinton-Lewinsky-Tripp-Starr affair and I am going to summarize her findings here.


這於the yod book (by Karen Hamaker-Zondag)中有提及。(o…我很想買的書…>_<)


(之後的會接著譯…但個人覺得下面那個例子的說法已經太玄…有點over…看看當reference吧…個人建議only…)


Monica Lewinsky has a sextile in her horoscope between Venus (love) in Leo (28 degrees and 27 minutes) and Saturn (ambition and obstacles) in Gemini (28 degrees and 57 minutes). Venus sits close to the fixed star Regulus, the Royal Star.


An active Regulus in the horoscope is supposed to bring you into contact with royalty or, at least, very powerful people. It depends on the planet contacting Regulus on exactly how this contact is made and which part of the anatomy of the powerful person it will be made with.


Linda Tripp was born with the Moon in Capricorn (28 degrees and 6 minutes) and Jupiter in Capricorn (28 degrees and 51 minutes). This filled in the Yod in Monica horoscope and also opposed Monica Mercury, which was at 25 degrees and 7 minutes of the sign Cancer. Remember that Monica was born with Mercury in the 10th house and that tends to bring what you say before the public.


So here we have Linda Tripp who doesn like Clinton and thinks his behavior is immoral (both her Moon and Jupiter, her Sun-sign ruler in straight-laced Capricorn), she meets Monica, and their charts form that compulsive, fated pattern called a Yod. But the story, as we know, didn end here. The question still remains, why did this incident get that big and effect the entire country so strongly? Was it because it involved the president of the United States? So did the affairs he had with Paula Jones, Geniffer Flowers, and a former Miss America.


What the difference here? It turns out that Linda Tripp horoscope wasn the only one that filled in the Yod in Monica chart.


Let take a look at the horoscope of the United States of America. Yes, countries have horoscopes too. In fact, so does anything that has a beginning on planet Earth. The exact time when the Declaration of Independence was signed is in dispute. However, that doesn affect the sign position of the slower-moving outer planets. On the day the Founding Fathers put their John Hancocks on the declaration (including the original John Hancock), Pluto was in the sign of Capricorn, 27 degrees and 15 minutes. This gave Monica the potential to have a great impact on the whole country to the point of obsession (Pluto is the planet of obsessions).


Let put Ken Starr into the picture. His chart has the Sun in the sign of Cancer at 28 degrees and 37 minutes. Saturn is also in Cancer just a tiny distance away at 28 degrees and 30 minutes. Saturn making a conjunction with the Sun can make a person upright to the point of being uptight.


Notice how close all of these aspects are. Notice too, the tremendous effect that the combination of all these people had on the nation. All of them had strong contacts to compulsive Pluto in the United States horoscope.


Neptune is the planet of dreams and illusions. On the negative side, it governs self-destructive behavior, elf-undoing.?Neptune is also the planet of scandal. Where was Neptune by transit when all of this was happening?


I know that numbers turn off a lot of people, but please bear with me because detail is important here. Remember that Neptune moves slowly. It stays in the same area of the sky for over a year at a time. This makes its effects drag on and on.


Neptune reached 25 degrees and 15 minutes of Capricorn on November 7, 1996 and kept going until it went retrograde on May 1, 1997 at 29 degrees and 57 minutes of that same sign. Then, it went back to 27 degrees and 10 minutes of Capricorn where it stationed again on October 8. That only a tiny fraction of a degree from the U.S. Pluto. Neptune remained in Capricorn until January 28, 1998, which was the month those secretly taped phone conversations were made public and the scandal exploded.



On January 28, Neptune went into Aquarius and immediately made an opposition to Monica natal Sun in the 1st degree of Leo. Scandal and betrayal. It also opposed Bill Clinton Saturn. Neptune opposite Saturn can make you feel that everything you need for safety and security is dissolving out from under you.


Neptune, planet of illusions and delusions, went back to Capricorn from August 22 to November 27, 1998. The Republicans had the illusion that a scandal about an extramarital affair would be all they needed to sweep to victory. In an off-year election, when the party out of power almost always gains seats in congress, they lost. It turned out that most people didn care any more. Clinton survived. Gingrich resigned.


Most likely you won see anything this dramatic in your own horoscope or those of your friends and family, but check them out. See if there are any Yods.


Be sure to see if you have any sextiles as well. Remember, anyone who has a planet Opposite the midpoint of your sextile will create a Yod in your chart. It works the same way if one of your planets is opposite the midpoint of one of their sextiles. And don forget to look for a lone quincunx in either horoscope. There are two possible places, in that case, where a planet in someone else chart could still form a Yod for you. And then it off to the races. A relationship to remember. Even if you want to forget.


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黄金分割与循环角度...

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行星周期

H.J .古松在他的<<星辰学词典>>中这样定义行星周期:
"我们把一个行星围绕黄道公装一圈,经过准确的若干年之后又回归到黄道相同的位置上的时间叫做周期."下面是行星围绕太阳公转的时间:
冥王星:约248年
海王星:163年
天王醒:184年
土    星:29年
木    星:11年多
火    星:1年+322天
太阳(地球):365天
金    星:244天
水    星:87天
月    亮:29.5036天

历次行星会聚相关图表(转)

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9月25日:

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雨版是来去匆匆啊!
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原帖由 股市浪子 于 2006-9-14 23:31 发表
雨版是来去匆匆啊!

呵呵,身体不太好,上来的时间少,不来又丢不下,总想来看看。没有前段的泡网精力了。
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身体是本,祝雨兄早日康复!!!
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原帖由 跳跳雨 于 2006-9-14 22:56 发表
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9月16日有个木---月---天王的大三角。

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