波动力的波动

老夫子

从我的广泛调查，研究和实践中，我发现不仅各种股票在波动，而且控制这些股票的驱动力也处于一种波动状态。这些波动力只能通过它们在股票上产生的运动和它们在市场中的值来认识。既然所有大摆动或运动是循环的，所以它们按周期法则活动--------------------------江恩华尔街45年附录二。
问题：这个“值”是多少？如何判断这个“值”？您认识到这个“值”吗？？

占一剑

我想跟因果有关，好问题。

星元

按前后文的意思，“波动力”应该是“驱动力”。
这一段话实际上江恩表述的就是“价格的相对运动原理”。这里才是真正的“轮中之轮”。
至于那个“值”，没有多大意义。

垂钓沧波间

洗耳恭听，请老夫子兄开讲。


[ 本帖最后由 垂钓沧波间 于 2009-3-29 04:32 编辑 ]

陈年老酒

价格的波动幅度,成交量

yktu

驱动力估且称为基本驱动幅, 驱动力既处于一种波动状态, 不如又称为基本波动幅,所以"这些基本波动幅只能通过它们在股票上产生的运动和它们在市场中的值来认识"
这句话的意义或体现就在"空中隧道"一书中的这句中"努力发现我们正处在什么样的循环中"
此句话在我自己认知中,是江流给世人最有价值的一句话
其真义是个好的体悟方向

驱动力的产生源于此文"The Ticker and Investment Digest"中的前一段中的"original impulse"
而original impulse(原始激励)就是由波动本源触发的,这波动本源在空中隧道一书中的封面已清楚描绘出来,只不过那老外仁兄是个超级大忽悠把它描述成占星去了,在封面的波动环境存在一个结构性问题,也是所有轮中轮或九方图类似工具共同存的问题,这也是个好的体悟方向
"The power to determine the trend of the market is due to my knowledge of the characteristics of each individual stock and a certain grouping of different stocks under their proper rates of vibration. Stocks are like electrons, atoms and molecules, which hold persistently to their own individuality in response to the fundamental law of vibration. Science teaches that 'an original impulse of any kind finally resolves itself into a periodic or rhythmical motion; also, just as the pendulum returns again in its swing, just as the moon returns in its orbit, just as the advancing year over brings the rose of spring, so do the properties of the elements periodically recur as the weight of the atoms rises."


[ 本帖最后由 yktu 于 2009-3-29 10:26 编辑 ]

淘金大使

驱动力估且称为基本驱动幅, 驱动力既处于一种波动状态, 不如又称为基本波动幅,所以"这些基本波动幅只能通过它们在股票上产生的运动和它们在市场中的值来认识"
这句话的意义或体现就在"空中隧道"一书中的这句中"努力发现我们正处在什么样的循环中"
此句话在我自己认知中,是江流给世人最有价值的一句话
其真义是个好的体悟方向

驱动力的产生源于此文"The Ticker and Investment Digest"中的前一段中的"original impulse"
而original impulse(原始激励)就是由波动本源触发的,这波动本源在空中隧道一书中的封面已清楚描绘出来,只不过那老外仁兄是个超级大忽悠把它描述成占星去了,在封面的波动环境存在一个结构性问题,也是所有轮中轮或九方图类似工具共同存的问题,这也是个好的体悟方向
"The power to determine the trend of the market is due to my knowledge of the characteristics of each individual stock and a certain grouping of different stocks under their proper rates of vibration. Stocks are like electrons, atoms and molecules, which hold persistently to their own individuality in response to the fundamental law of vibration. Science teaches that 'an original impulse of any kind finally resolves itself into a periodic or rhythmical motion; also, just as the pendulum returns again in its swing, just as the moon returns in its orbit, just as the advancing year over brings the rose of spring, so do the properties of the elements periodically recur as the weight of the atoms rises."

wfjtjlyrrl

让人想起了中医的“望闻问切”。服中药的时候，起关键作用的就是“药引子”。

垂钓沧波间

字太小了，复制一下。
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驱动力估且称为基本驱动幅, 驱动力既处于一种波动状态, 不如又称为基本波动幅,所以"这些基本波动幅只能通过它们在股票上产生的运动和它们在市场中的值来认识"
这句话的意义或体现就在"空中隧道"一书中的这句中"努力发现我们正处在什么样的循环中"
此句话在我自己认知中,是江流给世人最有价值的一句话
其真义是个好的体悟方向

驱动力的产生源于此文"The Ticker and Investment Digest"中的前一段中的"original impulse"
而original impulse(原始激励)就是由波动本源触发的,这波动本源在空中隧道一书中的封面已清楚描绘出来,只不过那老外仁兄是个超级大忽悠把它描述成占星去了,在封面的波动环境存在一个结构性问题,也是所有轮中轮或九方图类似工具共同存的问题,这也是个好的体悟方向
"The power to determine the trend of the market is due to my knowledge of the characteristics of each individual stock and a certain grouping of different stocks under their proper rates of vibration. Stocks are like electrons, atoms and molecules, which hold persistently to their own individuality in response to the fundamental law of vibration. Science teaches that 'an original impulse of any kind finally resolves itself into a periodic or rhythmical motion; also, just as the pendulum returns again in its swing, just as the moon returns in its orbit, just as the advancing year over brings the rose of spring, so do the properties of the elements periodically recur as the weight of the atoms rises."


[ 本帖最后由 垂钓沧波间 于 2009-3-29 17:46 编辑 ]

垂钓沧波间

"努力发现我们正处在什么样的循环中"
=============================
怎么发现，从哪里下手、切入呢？郁闷

xinju

值等于时间值
或周期值

ly828

比如现在，江恩的５年循环是否有作用呢？其实现在的走势完全是从历史走来的，周期拐点我已能比较精确把握，但如果能确认方向呢，还请夫子指教。

OldZ

谢谢老夫子.

这么好的题,我也来考一考.

今天不能交卷,今天角肯定是个大鸭蛋.

计算搞多了,烦了. 越来越喜欢哲理性的题目了.
体力劳动跟脑力劳动结合呵呵

[ 本帖最后由 OldZ 于 2009-3-30 19:38 编辑 ]

OldZ

最后一句话:
"所以它们按周期法则活动"

交卷:

驱动力=周期

值:还是周期

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那且不时周期是波动的了

感觉我是在做阅读理解.晕.

OldZ

麻烦了,今天玩提前交卷了.

pixcn007

请夫子老师开讲！

anyway

能说得简单点不？

天道2009

学习学习再学习。

魔神

运动的力度会波动，可以通过波动的周期和幅度来体现

Panther

很有趣又要费脑汁的题目，难道要动用导数？
先交白卷了。

核桃园

原帖由 yktu 于 2009-3-29 10:21 发表
而original impulse(原始激励)就是由波动本源触发的,这波动本源在空中隧道一书中的封面已清楚描绘出来,只不过那老外仁兄是个超级大忽悠把它描述成占星去了,在封面的波动环境存在一个结构性问题,也是所有轮中轮或九方图类似工具共同存的问题...

仁兄能否帖张原版的封面看看，非常感谢。

jlgy

值的变化引起波动率的变化，波动率的变化是波动力变动的体现吧！

johncheung

没有下文？

yktu

原帖由 核桃園 於 2009-5-2 14:24 發表


仁兄能否帖張原版的封面看看，非常感謝。

這是別人發的,在那帖忘了
順便放些泡,沒興趣再交流,潛水去了

1. 法則基數
2.股價上漲是發散波動,需用發散的結構, 股價下跌是收斂波動,需用收斂的結構,兩者有異
3.需符合單浪法則
4.重視其歷史，並努力發現我們正處在什麼樣的循環中
5.算數波動與幾何波動交錯運行
6. 結構與法則
7, 以基數定出每浪結構
8. 江空中隧道一書的封面已經清劃出基本的法則環境,但是存在一個關鍵的結構性問題,這問題與上述之一有關
9.建構法則環境三部曲:

一部曲: 原始的激勵
二部曲: 經由」透鏡成像」與」功率放大」原理轉換
三部曲: 再定基數重組成法則
Science teaches that'an "original impulse" of any kind finally resolves itself into aperiodic or rhythmical motion; also, just as the pendulum returns again in itsswing, just as the moon returns in its orbit, just as the advancing year overbrings the rose of spring, so do the properties of the elements periodicallyrecur as the weight of the atoms rises."
"I have foundthat in the stock itself exists its harmonic or inharmonious relationship tothe driving power or force behind it. The secret of all its activity istherefore apparent. By my method I can determine ""the vibration ofeach stock"" and also, by taking certain values intoconsideration, I can, in the majority of cases, tell exactly what the stockwill do under given conditions."

"The power todetermine the trend of the market is due to my knowledge of the characteristicsof each individual stock and a certain grouping of different stocks under their「proper rates of vibration」. Stocks are like electrons, atoms and molecules,which hold persistently to their own individuality in response to "thefundamental law

10.基點或凌空,基點穩定性小,凌空穩定性大,例如由80為基點與由8為基點差異會相當大,可能使建構的環境一點無用,另取k線,取浪幅,取一般黃金率,江恩率或任何比率, 或九方或輪中輪的步長法均都不會穩定作用小
11基本環境是否超過50%正確,用基數及單浪法則可驗證出來, 單浪法則50%正確表示基本環境50%正確, 單浪法則90%正確表示基本環境90%正確, 單浪法則100%正確表示基本環境100%正確,當然100%正確在這世界上不存在, 90%以上正確存在

[ 本帖最后由 yktu 于 2009-5-2 16:06 编辑 ]

jsyly

放大了看

1. 法則基數
2.股價上漲是發散波動,需用發散的結構, 股價下跌是收斂波動,需用收斂的結構,兩者有異
3.需符合單浪法則
4.重視其歷史，並努力發現我們正處在什麼樣的循環中
5.算數波動與幾何波動交錯運行
6. 結構與法則
7, 以基數定出每浪結構
8. 江空中隧道一書的封面已經清劃出基本的法則環境,但是存在一個關鍵的結構性問題,這問題與上述之一有關
9.建構法則環境三部曲:

一部曲: 原始的激勵
二部曲: 經由」透鏡成像」與」功率放大」原理轉換
一部曲: 再定基數重組成法則
Science teaches that'an "original impulse" of any kind finally resolves itself into aperiodic or rhythmical motion; also, just as the pendulum returns again in itsswing, just as the moon returns in its orbit, just as the advancing year overbrings the rose of spring, so do the properties of the elements periodicallyrecur as the weight of the atoms rises."
"I have foundthat in the stock itself exists its harmonic or inharmonious relationship tothe driving power or force behind it. The secret of all its activity istherefore apparent. By my method I can determine ""the vibration ofeach stock"" and also, by taking certain  values intoconsideration, I can, in the majority of cases, tell exactly what the stockwill do under given conditions."

"The power todetermine the trend of the market is due to my knowledge of the characteristicsof each individual stock and a certain grouping of different stocks under their「proper rates of vibration」. Stocks are like electrons, atoms and molecules,which hold persistently to their own individuality in response to "thefundamental law

10.基點或凌空,基點穩定性
小,凌空穩定性大,力如由80為基點與由8為基點差異會相當大,可能使建構的環境一點無用,另取k線,取浪幅,取一般黃金率,江恩率或任何比率, 或九方或輪中輪的步長法均都不會穩定作用小
11基本環境是否超過50%正確,用基數及單浪法則可驗證出來, 單浪法則50%正確表示基本環境50%正確, 單浪法則90%正確表示基本環境90%正確, 單浪法則100%正確表示基本環境100%正確,當然100%正確在這世界上不存在, 90%以上正確存在

核桃园

多谢仁兄了

一叶

辛苦了 学习。

wsgswsgs

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