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标题: 探讨下时价转换 [打印本页]

作者: OldZ 时间: 2008-7-27 13:26
标题: 探讨下时价转换
关于时间的计算或者说预测方法，基本上都是基于天体运行周期演绎出来的但是
这类方法是市场的自然属性，也即是市场会对这些时间有所反应那不过是市场的
自然属性，几乎所有的产品都在同一个时刻都会有反应，自然属性应该说是共性
吧
最本质的还是各个产品的自有属性，是个性。
不同产品的价格不一样，就是说价格可是转换成时间周期，时间周期也就不一样
了，价格如何转换成时间，研究过占星的会知道，占星是通过时间来确定价格，
我们反过来即可，我认为跟角度有关系，价格通过计算，得到一个角度，就可以
得到时间了，时间跟价格不可以分开预测。
这是我的认识,学习研究的方向，如果方向错了，那就要走到南墙再回头
市场是深奥的，学习研究没有捷径可走

作者: fy1603 时间: 2008-7-27 14:11
This is simply the math process for visual use of the Square of 9 .

Any number can be converted into an Angle, A, in Degrees of a Circle, as the Excel formula
= MOD[(SQRT((N))*180)-225,360)]

where N is the number. N could equal the current Price on our chart, or the Price Range (of current trend or prior trend, or two swings ago or whatever is) being looked, or the time (number of bars, regardless of time frame) in current trend, or a prior trend, etc.

So the idea is to convert into degrees of a circle, a price or a price range being looked and then compare it with the converted price or range, or a relavant time range of another trend, and see if they exactly (360) "square" i.e. be the same degrees of a circle, or as described below, be at an important degree that "squares" at some other important angle or aspect with the 1st number converted.

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作者: 占一剑 时间: 2008-7-27 15:36
标题: 回复 #1 OldZ 的帖子
“时间跟价格不可以分开预测”

OldZ兄这个提法很好！能详细讲讲吗？这样也许是正解。

作者: OldZ 时间: 2008-7-27 17:08
fy1603兄给的那个公式是Carl Futia的公式，我研究过，只能说还行。

作者: OldZ 时间: 2008-7-27 17:14

原帖由 占一剑 于 2008-7-27 15:36 发表
“时间跟价格不可以分开预测”

OldZ兄这个提法很好！能详细讲讲吗？这样也许是正解。

因为从一段走势的H到L,中间有太多的次级别的H,L，何时结束？所以无法抛开时间

也许每个H，L的数字本身包含时间因素在内，只是我们没有发现？

江恩说：高低点存在确切的数学关系

可是这对高低点到底要包含多长的时间间隔呢？他们才具有确切的数学关系。

应该不是任意时间跨度的高低点都具有确切的数学关系

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作者: 大蚂蚁 时间: 2008-7-28 02:50

简单有效
同时需要再研究0度线

作者: yay 时间: 2008-7-28 08:11

原帖由 OldZ 于 2008-7-27 09:14 发表

因为从一段走势的H到L,中间有太多的次级别的H,L，何时结束？所以无法抛开时间

也许每个H，L的数字本身包含时间因素在内，只是我们没有发现？

江恩说：高低点存在确切的数学关系

可是这对高低点到 ...

不错!

作者: fy1603 时间: 2008-7-29 03:27
XT : "Price and

are inseparably linked...the method you use is a reflection of your particular journey in reconciling this truth."

作者: OldZ 时间: 2008-7-29 10:34

原帖由 大蚂蚁 于 2008-7-28 02:50 发表

简单有效
同时需要再研究0度线

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另外我猜测你说的“0度线”，应该是指 0价格角度线吧？

请蚂蚁兄弟讲讲0价格角度线是怎么放映出合适的时间周期的

有图最好了

作者: OldZ 时间: 2008-7-29 10:47

原帖由 fy1603 于 2008-7-29 03:27 发表
XT : "Price and are inseparably linked...the method you use is a reflection of your particular journey in reconciling this truth."

我至今没有享受到时价和谐的乐趣，兄弟展开讲讲你的看法

我认为Carl的公式是错误的，Daniel Ferrera对Carl的公式做了了评价，他认为Carl的公式是错误的
他给出了个公式，可是他给出的公式也是不能有效的，精确的合乎市场走势。

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作者: dlstocker 时间: 2008-7-29 12:19
325+1043＝2245

512～1510、1047～2245、    998

95、2245、998    6124

2245  6124    2566

作者: yay 时间: 2008-7-29 12:52

原帖由 OldZ 于 2008-7-29 02:47 发表

我至今没有享受到时价和谐的乐趣，兄弟展开讲讲你的看法

我认为Carl的公式是错误的，Daniel Ferrera对Carl的公式做了了评价，他认为Carl的公式是错误的
他给出了个公式，可是他给出的公式也是不能有效 ...

Daniel Ferrera留了一手!

作者: 大蚂蚁 时间: 2008-7-30 00:13

原帖由 OldZ 于 2008-7-29 10:34 发表

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另外我猜测你说的“0度线”，应该是指 0价格角度线吧？

请蚂蚁兄弟讲讲0价格角度线是怎么放映出合适的时间周期的

有图最好了

全部0度

作者: fy1603 时间: 2008-7-30 12:56
OLDZ 兄

I'm not sure where I got this, but it's in my notes of sq9 study and share it with you:

There are a dozen ways to use sq. of nine. Squaring price to

is only one method. Sq. price to price.

to time. Ranges of price. Ranges of Time. Ranges of price and time... the list goes on. you can also convert price to degrees and where does that fall on the sq. Planetary longitude to price and where does that fall. Aspects between converted planets. And then there is the degree ring on the outside. Use the ring as calander days as well as planetary longitude. There is no right/wrong way to use the sq. of nine. It's a harmonic tool. Same way as long as you know the key of a song, you can pretty much play any note in that key and be harmonious.

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“Nothing has more retarded the advancement of learning than the disposition of vulgar minds to ridicule and vilify what they cannot comprehend” - Samual Johnson

Of all the techniques used in technical analysis, the use and knowledge of dominant time cycles is one of the only methods that allows you to project and anticipate a point in the future, where the market you are studying is likely to change trend. This is possible because price action unfolds in repetitive rhythms over time. W.D Gann used his knowledge of time cycles to make many incredibly accurate market forecasts in both price and time. Gann believed that “Time is the most important factor in determining market movements” because everything moves in cycles, as the result of the natural law of action and reaction. “By a study of the past, I have discovered what cycles repeat in the future”. Because a cycle literally refers to a circle, Gann knew that the harmonic divisions of the circle would be accurate forecasting tools. This is applicable to all time
frames, hours, days, weeks, months, years, etc. Therefore, the important natural cycles are 15, 22½, 30, 45, 60, 67½, 90, 112½, 120, 135, 150, 157½, 180, 202½, 210, 225, 240, 247½, 270, 292½, 300, 315, 330, 337½ and 360.

If we utilize another forecasting technique called a mirror image foldback, we can make an interesting projection or forecast. Basically, the technique assumes that the market under study has found a balance point and is now going to fold backwards over the same human emotional energy that it has just crossed, only this time in reverse.

作者: 占一剑 时间: 2008-9-27 22:50
标题: 回复 #14 fy1603 的帖子
fy1603兄的全是英文啊！看不懂，费力啊。。。

作者: shdw 时间: 2008-9-28 14:05
看不懂

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作者: skywater 时间: 2013-9-15 16:19
很好的探索文章有启发

作者: skywater 时间: 2013-9-16 16:47
谁能把英文翻译一下啊

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